2 Pages12>
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Erogenesis  
#1 Posted : Thursday, December 8, 2016 6:44:39 AM(UTC)
Erogenesis

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 9/15/2012(UTC)
Posts: 626

Thanks: 85 times
Was thanked: 80 time(s) in 56 post(s)

My male gens project (TaB) is out the door for testing and I am writing the manual now. This project has helped me overcome some obstacles and allowed me to look beyond some of the issues I ran into with Project E, It has also allowed to to experiment with how to build up the materials and runtimes, the poses and several other supporting aspects of releasing such a monstrous product.

Thus my main goal for PE is definitely: plug and play!

However, I think I will have to cut corners to get this product out the door a.s.a.p. With TaB I could see that the possibilities were endless and that I needed to stop myself to get it out there. No doubt I will have to do the same with PE. So I will focus on this:


The initial release of must be able to:
  1. Look like and bend like V4 Lali's Bits, V6, V7 and better
  2. Be able to morph into any type of woman
  3. all facial options, morphs and make-up
  4. represent most ethnicities (morph and materials-wise)
  5. ship alongside most basic poses, sports, yoga, dancing, everyday, modular poses etc
  6. have some basic clothing: jeans, t-shirt, skirt, bra, undies, sneakers, pumps
  7. nice everyday hair
  8. mannequins for vendors to develop their own stuff on

Updates or expansion packs will include stuff like:
  • theme packs
  • special elvish morphs
  • aging morphs
  • alien / orc / monster morphs & materials
  • more detailed poses
  • etc etc
And now the most important part:

Because this will be my first Poser figure, there will undoubtedly be issues I will have not considered. These will come out of the woodwork as people work with her. Unless PE has an issue that can be quickly resolved, all requests for mesh / rig improvements and modifications will go towards a second version of PE, and not an update. I will make a promise that the second version will have an identical topology so that we don't have to redo or re-purchase all our content all over again. Instead, if PE works out, we can now focus on perfecting what we already have.

_______________________________________

Now just to give you an example of how I go to work, TaB's zip file contains:

CORE PACK
 
The Core Pack is for people that can do their own materials. It will include the following:
  • Four UV versions of Genesis-friendly TaBs
  • Four UV versions of Poser-friendly TaBs
Poses:
  • 29 applicable poses for M4
  • Fit poses for each supported figure
  • 16 preset poses (including zero poses)
  • 21 Shaft poses (including zero poses)
  • 26 glans poses (including zero poses)
  • 21 scrotum poses (including zero poses)
  • 10 detail poses (including zero poses)
  • 17 more miscellaneous poses (including zero poses)
Props:
  • 5 versions of a Cockring prop for M4, V4, G2M and F and a general poser version
Materials:
  • 12 core materials for the Ero version for show, and as a basis for tinkerers to make their own sets.
Textures:
  • The basic versions of 4 types of Ero textures.
  • Several masks that can be used for all four UV sets.
  • Helpful info jpegs.
  • Several transparencies per UV version
Scenes:
  • 1 Start-up scene with lights and render setting as I like them
_______________________________________
 
EXPANSION PACK
 
The Expansion pack will include +200 materials of different shades and matches to existing M4 material packs available.
 
  • - +140 shades with pubes versions
  • - materials for M4 Elite figures using original textures (M4 Elite required)
  • - materials for M4 Elite gens using original textures (M4 Elite required)
  • - matching materials for M4 Elite gens
  • - matching materials for Tyrese and Uncle Albert
  • - materials for M6 Darius, Michael 6 and M6 Phillip gens using original textures (original textures required)
_______________________________________


And this is just a willy! I hope it will give you some confidence in PE again. I am certainly looking forward to completing PE asap!


Edited by user Thursday, February 9, 2017 9:38:06 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

______
"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all"
TonyVilters  
#2 Posted : Thursday, December 8, 2016 10:05:08 AM(UTC)
TonyVilters

Rank: Member

Joined: 2/28/2016(UTC)
Posts: 20

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 2 post(s)
Hey, thanks for the good news, and if I can help with pre-release testing, please feel free to contact : Tony.vilters@telenet.be
Testing is what I do, and this figure has a lot of potential.
Best regards, Tony
Don't drive faster then your angel can fly !
FVerbaaas  
#3 Posted : Thursday, December 8, 2016 11:08:30 AM(UTC)
FVerbaaas

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 2/24/2016(UTC)
Posts: 56

Thanks: 6 times
Was thanked: 16 time(s) in 8 post(s)
Good to hear this.
I expect to retun to the fold in 2 weeks time, so hopefully just in time to see her arrival.
goorz  
#4 Posted : Thursday, December 8, 2016 5:05:10 PM(UTC)
goorz

Rank: Newbie

Joined: 6/30/2016(UTC)
Posts: 2

That's good news about PE and that TaB look very good :)
I guess I put those on my Christmas list :)
begmysweet  
#5 Posted : Thursday, December 8, 2016 9:46:05 PM(UTC)
begmysweet

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 9/15/2012(UTC)
Posts: 177

Can't wait to get my hands on PE. Been waiting for a long time and even refused to buy Genises because I waited for this lol. I'm even willing to try my hand at some poses and put them out for free (I'm getting better at it so why not!) If you need a tester I was a tester for V4WM and that was a lot of fun. Just let me know if you need any help and I'll do my best.
goorz  
#6 Posted : Friday, December 9, 2016 3:33:55 AM(UTC)
goorz

Rank: Newbie

Joined: 6/30/2016(UTC)
Posts: 2

oh one more question will you be able to use V4 skin mats on PE???? thank you
Erogenesis  
#7 Posted : Friday, December 9, 2016 2:59:00 PM(UTC)
Erogenesis

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 9/15/2012(UTC)
Posts: 626

Thanks: 85 times
Was thanked: 80 time(s) in 56 post(s)
Did this today. 

Resuming PE in about a week or two...

(answering questions in a sec...)





______
"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all"
Erogenesis  
#8 Posted : Friday, December 9, 2016 3:08:04 PM(UTC)
Erogenesis

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 9/15/2012(UTC)
Posts: 626

Thanks: 85 times
Was thanked: 80 time(s) in 56 post(s)
@vilters: to not let you test PE would to be doing the universe an injustice ;)

@Verbaas: lol in two weeks I'll resume development. I suspect ETA to be around March 2017. I hope earlier obviously but I don't tust my sense of timing.

@gooz: TaB for xmas, yes. PE for Easter more probably.

@begmysweet: you are a tester without question. Remind me though!

@goorz: unfortunately no I couldn't do the V4 textures thing. Many people advised me against it. There's a very small chance I might still do it, but that depends on certain things, legal things... Also, I think the V4 (and all the other DAZ figure's) UV formatting sucks.
______
"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all"
begmysweet  
#9 Posted : Friday, December 9, 2016 8:42:27 PM(UTC)
begmysweet

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 9/15/2012(UTC)
Posts: 177

Awesome thank you. Also yeah the Daz way of doing skins does suck. Though I do have my fav skins but I could always figure out a way to apply them through photoshop.  Also I know V4 head morphs probably won't transfer without a script but it would be awesome to bring some of the personal characters we've made over. So hopefully someone does that in the future.


Erogenesis  
#10 Posted : Friday, December 9, 2016 10:39:41 PM(UTC)
Erogenesis

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 9/15/2012(UTC)
Posts: 626

Thanks: 85 times
Was thanked: 80 time(s) in 56 post(s)
@begmysweet: when it comes to faces, that might be less of a problem actually. PE's head map is not that much different and I can easily make a photoshop liquify action to do the job for you. The tricky part will be reconstructing the face in 3D. I should be able to provide enough morphs for that though.
______
"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all"
Glitterati3D  
#11 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2016 8:09:02 AM(UTC)
Glitterati3D

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 2/14/2016(UTC)
Posts: 93

Thanks: 6 times
Was thanked: 11 time(s) in 8 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Erogenesis Go to Quoted Post
Also, I think the V4 (and all the other DAZ figure's) UV formatting sucks.


Thank you for saying that!  And, for saying it out loud.

I'm dealing with one of those sucky UV maps on a different project and it increases time to completion 100 fold.

knyghtmarev3  
#12 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2016 4:04:37 PM(UTC)
knyghtmarev3

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 2/16/2016(UTC)
Posts: 82

Thanks: 15 times
Was thanked: 7 time(s) in 6 post(s)
Who do I have to bribe to be a tester?
Sometimes, one must walk in darkness to protect those who traverse the light

http://legendoftheknyghtmare-vol2.the-comic.org/
jettamesis  
#13 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2016 1:26:38 AM(UTC)
jettamesis

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 2/24/2016(UTC)
Posts: 32

Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 3 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Erogenesis Go to Quoted Post




The initial release of must be able to:
  1. Look like and bend like V4 Lali's Bits, V6, V7 and better
  2. Be able to morph into any type of woman
  3. all facial options, morphs and make-up
  4. represent most ethnicities (morph and materials-wise)
  5. ship alongside most basic poses, sports, yoga, dancing, everyday, modular poses etc
  6. have some basic clothing: jeans, t-shirt, skirt, bra, undies, sneakers, pumps
  7. nice everyday hair
  8. mannequins for vendors to develop their own stuff on

Updates or expansion packs will include stuff like:
  • theme packs
  • special elvish morphs
  • aging morphs
  • alien / orc / monster morphs & materials
  • more detailed poses
  • etc etc
And this is just a willy! I hope it will give you some confidence in PE again. I am certainly looking forward to completing PE asap!





Please include a catsuit as well in your clothing list, since that can be useful in creating certain clothing using transparency maps. Thanks!
Erogenesis  
#14 Posted : Friday, January 6, 2017 1:48:32 AM(UTC)
Erogenesis

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 9/15/2012(UTC)
Posts: 626

Thanks: 85 times
Was thanked: 80 time(s) in 56 post(s)
Hey peeps, the male gens is out the door and as promised I will be resuming PE any day now. I have a workflow set up so just like TaB its just a question of getting it done. I'm just setting up my comic scenes so that they can happily be rendering in the background.

I might have said this before but I'll be aiming for a basic ground model to build upon, something like a fully injected Lali's Bits Miepe Xameva Blackhearted V4. I will approach the texture issue like I did with TaB: a few base textures and a load of shades variants and eyebrow variants bla bla etc...

The biggest challenge will be making the mannequins and deciding which morphs need representing in them. Maybe it will be ok, I'll see.

I'll rig her entirely in PP2014. If PP11 behaves I might use it to make morph injections and / or split FBMs. I might also make a P11 version with hidef morphs.

The DS version will obviously come later, and will hopefully be identical.

Here are more picas of PE:







______
"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all"
matt  
#15 Posted : Friday, January 6, 2017 10:09:11 AM(UTC)
matt

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 9/15/2012(UTC)
Posts: 34

Thanks: 3 times
Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)
Awesome news. I see TaB is trending in the popular items at Rotica. I'll be grabbing it once I get paid. 
bu_es  
#16 Posted : Sunday, January 8, 2017 8:53:10 AM(UTC)
bu_es

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 3/14/2013(UTC)
Posts: 1,195

Thanks: 8 times
Was thanked: 2 time(s) in 2 post(s)
I hope that soon this available I am anxious. To be able to buy it and to work with her.
Erogenesis  
#17 Posted : Sunday, January 8, 2017 4:15:39 PM(UTC)
Erogenesis

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 9/15/2012(UTC)
Posts: 626

Thanks: 85 times
Was thanked: 80 time(s) in 56 post(s)
I'll do my best!!
______
"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all"
thanks 1 user thanked Erogenesis for this useful post.
digitalpanther on 1/11/2017(UTC)
Erogenesis  
#18 Posted : Thursday, February 9, 2017 9:44:45 PM(UTC)
Erogenesis

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 9/15/2012(UTC)
Posts: 626

Thanks: 85 times
Was thanked: 80 time(s) in 56 post(s)
hey peeps FYI, I'm working like crazy on PE whenever I can. I just did some urgent fixing of her face UVs and also improved on her mesh here and there. Because of all the tampering with the face and the UVs it was asymmetrical but that is now fixed. 

This is a picture form last week, the UV issues are hardly noticable but would be a problem for texturers.

that's it for now



______
"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all"
Masterstroke  
#19 Posted : Friday, February 10, 2017 9:08:57 AM(UTC)
Masterstroke

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 9/15/2012(UTC)
Posts: 219

Thanks: 14 times
Was thanked: 17 time(s) in 15 post(s)
so great. she realy is. it's true. best figure, best figure. Amaizing ;-)
jettamesis  
#20 Posted : Sunday, February 12, 2017 11:50:24 PM(UTC)
jettamesis

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 2/24/2016(UTC)
Posts: 32

Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 3 post(s)
Always glad to see an update on PE's status. Thanks!
Users browsing this topic
Guest (2)
2 Pages12>
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error